Article 24692 of talk.origins: From: rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires) Subject: The Four Laws of NetSlinging (Re: Respect for Creationists) Summary: don't BS Message-ID:Date: 12 Apr 92 02:43:20 GMT References: <9698.29E766F9@OFA123.FIDONET.ORG> Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Lines: 70 In article <9698.29E766F9@OFA123.FIDONET.ORG> David.Rice@ofa123.fidonet.org (David Rice) writes: > >LT> "It has been noted here that t.o. is an unfriendly place. > >This is only a hostile place for lazy thinkers. For your enjoyment and edification, here are The Four Laws of Netslinging, as promulgated by David Gudeman on sci.philosophy.meta not long ago: Ah. The kid thinks he wants to be a netslinger (wink to the other veterans listening in). Well, kid, there's more to gunslinging on the net than a quick reply and a nonchalant attitude. Sure, you might terrorize the general population with that stuff, but when you're dealing with a pro, you need a lot more than that. You've got to know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em, know when to walk away, know when to run. You've got to take your time, hold your breath, and _squeeeeeeze_ the send key, don't jerk it. You've screwed up badly already (and not just because you've gotten out of your league), you've gone and snapped out a reply without carefully re-reading it and it's full of silly errors that any competent netslinger (me, for example) is sure to take advantage of. Arguing on the net is not like arguing verbally. When you argue verbally you can say ten stupid things and the person you are arguing with only has time to point out one of them before he forgets the rest. When you argue on the net, each stupidity gets redisplayed and analysed in loving detail. ... And be careful with definitions, kid... [...] I wasn't concerned with what you were trying to show, I was concerned with your method of presenting your point which was not only gratuitously insulting, but extremely careless as well. First Law of Netslinging: if you are going to be insulting, for heaven's sake, don't be careless. I can't emphasize that one enough, kid. The Second Law of Netslinging is like unto the first: if you are going to be careless, for heaven's sake, don't be insulting. Violating these laws is sure to cause grief. [...] ... you are not hanging out with your high school buddies anymore, you are in a forum mostly populated by people in technical areas, most of whom are also quite clever. Face it, you don't stand out in your cleverness here. Until you learn to deal with that, you are going to have a hard time with the Third Law of Netslinging: assume that your opponent knows something about the subject that you don't. .... This is rather ironic. You lambast me for being unwilling to learn philosophy from you and jeer at people who learn philosophy from the great philosophers of the past). No, my response was meant as a relatively gentle prod to let you know that (1) you don't know enough about philosophy to make disparaging comments about it, (2) you have no business insulting people for carrying on a discussion -- especially in view of the fact that you clearly know no more about the subject than the arguers do, and (3) your article was carelessly written. I could have just come out and said those things, but I thought a demonstration would be more effective and less bruising to a tender ego. But in your own words, "why did I bother?" [...] Thank you for this nice demonstration of how foolish a person sounds discussing a technical term when he doesn't know what it means. You have just violated the Fourth Law of Netslinging: _DON'T BS_, the other party will almost surely call you on it. You will get off easy this time though, because although the remaining paragraphs are almost pure BS, I'm bored with shooting at sitting ducks and I'll just let it pass. -- David Gudeman >gudeman@cs.arizona.edu